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<li>'''You get an extra 10% when you are redeeming for United Miles'''. United is a preferred partner of Marriott’s, and you will get 10% extra miles when you purchase a package. But, you get the same extra 10% on a regular points transfer, so it doesn't affect the value proposition of the packages.</li>  
 
<li>'''You get an extra 10% when you are redeeming for United Miles'''. United is a preferred partner of Marriott’s, and you will get 10% extra miles when you purchase a package. But, you get the same extra 10% on a regular points transfer, so it doesn't affect the value proposition of the packages.</li>  
  
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<li>'''Marriott offers 5-night hotel + air packages that are designed for timeshare owners, but can SOMETIMES be booked by the general public'''.  You can call Marriott and ask to redeem for a 5-night package. They will usually tell you that you can’t. But people sometimes get lucky, and it doesn’t hurt to ask. If you are turned down, you can try calling back and getting a different representative. </li>
 
 
<li>'''5-night packages are an even better deal than the 7-night packages'''.  For example, a 120,000-mile package that includes a 5-night hotel certificate is 58,000 points LESS expensive than simply redeeming points for the 120,000 miles. In addition, it is easier to take full advantage of a 5-night certificate.</li>
 
 
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Revision as of 15:45, 1 July 2018

  Award Ticket Strategies

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Marriott Rewards is the only hotel program where it can worthwhile to transfer your points to frequent flyer programs, so that you can use them to book award tickets.

If you are are planning on converting Marriott points into frequent flyer miles, you can take advantage of Marriott's Hotel + Air packages, to get a discount on a 7-night hotel certificate. If you'll have an opportunity to stay at a hotel, for 5-7 days, this can be a better option than just a regular points transfer.

Before Marriott changed the Hotel + Air award charts as part of unifying the Marriott and SPG programs, these Hotel + Air packages were a tremendous deal. In some extreme cases, it actually cost fewer points to get a package (with the free 7-night certificate) than it did to just get the same number of frequent flyer miles.

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Get a discounted 7-night Marriott stay along with your airline miles

  • When you redeem for a package, you get a 7-night hotel certificate—you can decide where you want to use it later. You can use the certificate anytime during the year following your points transfer, and you can use the airline points whenever you want. You don’t need to have a definite plan to use the hotel certificate at the time you transfer you points.
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  • You can upgrade your hotel certificate when you want to use it—so start out with a Category 1-4 certificate. To upgrade your certificate, you’ll simply need to pay the points difference between the different categories of hotels. Unless you have a specific hotel stay in mind, always start with the Category 1-4 certificate, and then adjust it later (if necessary).
  • Hotel + Air packages can still be a good deal, even if you don’t plan to stay the full 7 nights. Depending on the package you're interested in, the discount can still make the package worthwhile, even if you only need to stay 5 or 6 nights. Unfortunately, you can’t split the certificate across two different hotels.
  • The packages are a much better deal when you would need to pay the peak rate for the hotel. Certificates can be used regardless of whether the hotel is offering standard, peak, or off-peak award rates. Marriott has priced the packages assuming that you will take advantage of the certificate during peak travel times.
  • You'll save 90,000 points on a 100,000 mile package, and 45,000 points on a 50,000 mile package, which can be a savings of up to 50% on the cost of 7-night hotel stay.

    100,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Package Cost
    330,000 390,000 510,000 570,000 750,000
    Normal cost for 100,000 miles
    240,000 240,000 240,000 240,000 240,000
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    90,000 150,000 270,000 330,000 510,000
    Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
    180,000 240,000 360,000 420,000 600,000
    Package savings
    90,000 90,000 90,000 90,000 90,000
    Percentage discount on certificate
    50% 38% 25% 21% 15%
    50,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Package Cost
    255,000 315,000 435,000 495,000 675,000
    Normal cost for 50,000 miles
    120,000 120,000 120,000 120,000 120,000
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    135,000 195,000 315,000 375,000 555,000
    Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
    180,000 240,000 360,000 420,000 600,000
    Package savings
    45,000 45,000 45,000 45,000 45,000
    Percentage discount on certificate
    25% 19% 13% 11% 8%
  • Packages are a better deal on lower category hotels. Because the discount is fixed, it is a more significant discount on less expensive hotel stays. For example, saving 90,000 points on a Category 4 certificate represents a 50% savings, but saving the same number of points on a Category 8 certificate only represents a 15% savings.
  • From another perspective, the 90,000 points you need to pay extra to get a Category 4 certificate with your 100,000 miles is the the same number of points that would normally be required for a 3 night peak stay. But, the 510,000 points you would need to pay extra to get a Category 8 certificate, is more than the cost of a 6 night stay.

  • Packages can actually cost more than the separate cost of the miles and hotel room, if you wind up using the certificate during non-peak dates. The packages still provide a discount at lower category hotels, especially for 100,000 mile packages, but can be more expensive than the individual pieces in higher categories for the 50,000 mile packages. The calculations for off-peak dates are even worse.
  • 100,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    90,000 150,000 270,000 330,000 510,000
    Normal cost for 7-night standard stay
    150,000 210,000 300,000 360,000 510,000
    Package savings
    60,000 60,000 30,000 30,000 0
    Percentage discount on certificate
    40% 29% 10% 8% 0%
    50,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    135,000 195,000 315,000 375,000 555,000
    Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
    150,000 210,000 300,000 360,000 510,000
    Package savings
    15,000 15,000 (15,000) (15,000) (45,000)
    Percentage discount on certificate
    15% 7% (5%) (4%) (9%)
  • You get an extra 10% when you are redeeming for United Miles. United is a preferred partner of Marriott’s, and you will get 10% extra miles when you purchase a package. But, you get the same extra 10% on a regular points transfer, so it doesn't affect the value proposition of the packages.

Cheap frequent flyer transfers when you are booking a multi-night stay

If you are already planning a 5 to 7-night stay at a Marriott or Starwood hotel, you can take advantage of these hotel + air packages to convert points to airline miles at extraordinarily good rates.

We don’t normally recommend transferring points into miles until you have a specific redemption in mind. However, the cost to do so, when you are already booking a multi-night hotel packages, is inexpensive enough, that it is worthwhile to transfer extra points to a program that you are most likely to use.

  • Marriott 7-night packages. With the normal Marriott packages, you can acquire airline miles for an additional cost of only 1 Marriott Point per mile (rather than 2.4 points per mile).  100,000 miles would only require 33,334 Starpoints (100,000 Marriott points), rather than the normal 80,000 Starpoints (240,000 Marriott points).
  • Starwood 5-night packages. With a Category 3 Starwood hotel, you’ll need an extra 32,000 Starwood points or 96,000 Marriott points for 50,000 miles, rather than the normal 40,000 Starpoints or 120,000 Marriott points. With a category 4 hotel, you’ll need an extra 30,000 Starwood points or 90,000 Marriott points instead.
  • Marriott 5-night packages. If you can take advantage of 5-night package, you’ll use fewer points than you would for a 7-night package, but the cost in points for the miles is a bit higher, although still well below the normal price. The following table shows costs for the miles, beyond the cost for a 5-night hotel reservation, in Marriott points. The cost in Starwood points would be 1/3 the amounts shown.
  • 50,000 miles 70,000 miles 100,000 miles 120,000 miles
    Normal Transfer 120,000 168,000 240,000 288,000
    1-5 65,000 85,000 115,000 135,000
    6 60,000 80,000 110,000 130,000
    7 60,000 80,000 110,000 130,000
    8 70,000 90,000 120,000 140,000
    9 95,000 127,000 145,000 165,000



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